Multiverse I: Inflection Points

Also known as the "Love Letter to Life and the People We Love" Episode

Join Red and Del as they dive into the moments that define u, the inflection points in life that shape who we are, who we become, and how we see the world. In this heartfelt and thought-provoking episode, they explore the moments they’re grateful for, the lessons they’ve learned (sometimes the hard way), and whether they’d change anything if given the chance.

From serendipitous encounters to hard-fought growth, Red and Del reflect on the people, decisions, and experiences that have left an indelible mark on their lives.

Whether you’re reflecting on your own journey or just need a reminder to appreciate the twists and turns of life, this episode is a love letter to the moments—and the people—that matter most.

Transcript

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Speaker 1
Well, the Michaels are hot.

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Speaker 2
The Gulf is America's and powered by Tostitos. This is distraction dive. I am called dull, and I recently learned that I had TSA PreCheck for the past, I think five years. And I just straight up did not know that I did, I guess, or something.

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Speaker 1
And

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Speaker 1
Wait. Don't you have to go through, like, a whole thing to get that?

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Speaker 1
I would have remembered that. I don't like talking to people. I don't like being interviewed by people. I would have,

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Speaker 1
And I'm read. And the only things I will dead name are Twitter and the Gulf of Mexico.

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Speaker 1
I do not have TSA PreCheck.

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Speaker 1
Well, why do you have to do an apology tour? About not having it. Oh, I would just pretend that it's new.

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Speaker 1
I mean, I guess that is what I just suggested, but, I mean, this is news to me as well. I mean, I, I did not know that this was something that you had and I did not even know this is something you went through. And I'm glad that you did, because I know about your history with airports and it has not been positive.

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Speaker 3
With it.

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Speaker 1
I am I am aware of your 12 to 14ft height and how it is also variable in that way.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, that that'll do it. That'll normally do it for sure. Certainly.

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Speaker 1
I I've been saying it. You know, I've been saying it. 20, 25 is the year of the app. Certainly, I, I am ready to. Yeah. What did you want to yap about today?

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Speaker 1
Oh, people are going to be so happy about that.

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Speaker 1
Well, yeah. I mean, that was what, 2016? All I see on the internet is like, 2016 is the year that we change timelines. And that's how we are where we are today.

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Speaker 1
Oh, oh. The big bit, the large, the large overarching bit that is our lives in our, you know, art form. Our chosen art form. Gotcha.

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Speaker 1
As big as nine. 11, to be honest. Sue is huge.

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Speaker 1
Too soon, too late.

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Speaker 1
I don't know either.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. No, I. I think there's just been so many historical events that we've lived through that are just so

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Speaker 1
honestly out of pocket. Covid was out of pocket. 911 was out of pocket. Harambe was out of pocket. Like, I'm a little upset,

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Speaker 3
I.

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Speaker 1
I don't know how else to describe it, I, I think I think that they. Yeah, I just I think it was rude, to be honest.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
I mean, it never occurred to me to hijack a plane, hop into, gorilla enclosure and or start a worldwide pandemic.

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Speaker 1
that's out of pocket, man.

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Speaker 3
No, no, that.

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Speaker 1
No, I was, I was I was toeing the line there. You know, like, men already have enough problems when they get a podcast. I am not trying to make up one of the problematic podcasts, you know.

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Speaker 1
I was actually just about to toss it to you because I'm wondering what you consider or what the criteria here for an inflection point might be for you.

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Speaker 1
Know I really want to hear it so I can I really I know that there are things that have happened to me in my life. But I have forgotten everything that's happened in my life. So.

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Speaker 1
give me that, give me that long preamble. Give me that first inflection point.

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Speaker 1
No, it's. It's. I've always loved that symbology and that imagery, because there's a lot of a lot of things about puzzles that are not negative or positive. A puzzle is a puzzle is just something that has to be put together. And some pieces are going to be harder to find a fit for than others. And also puzzles kind of start out like a mess, and we end up have finding ways to clean it up.

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Speaker 1
And there is, I think, an art in that. And I think there's also life there.

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Speaker 1
There are quite a few. Now that you've talked about puzzle pieces, I'm like,

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Speaker 1
what has been a mess that ended up being a puzzle piece that fits somewhere. What what was something that was

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

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Speaker 3
I.

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Speaker 1
I really just want to hit you. Not physically. I'm not a very violent dude. I just why why why am I fucking any of those? Why am I marrying any of those? Why would I kill any of those?

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Speaker 1
that I am.

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Speaker 1
Fucking the subtraction sign because it's already horizontal. Easy, easy.

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Speaker 1
I'm marrying the division sign. It's more complicated. And I've also never really been able to wrap my head around advanced long division. It was one of a. It was a big struggle for me in calculus.

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Speaker 1
so I'm going to marry it in hopes that it. I find some sort of love for it. And then. And then I'm going to kill the addition sign simply because

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Speaker 1
you can achieve addition with the subtraction sign. As long as you're using negative numbers. And it seems pointless to me to exist.

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Speaker 1
I need your answers now.

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Speaker 3
What? What?

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Speaker 3
You mean it looks.

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Speaker 1
Oh, that division sign is just so Bdsm.

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Speaker 3
What's the. I

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Speaker 3
like.

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Speaker 1
In in perpetuity. Forever adding shit.

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Speaker 1
right. And not everything is positive, man.

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Speaker 1
I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1
subtraction sign is literally taking something from me when we fucking. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1
there is less of me by the time it's all over.

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Speaker 3
The law.

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Speaker 1
And also, just like it's more complex than subtraction is right. It's. It includes a lot of other math, and it's just a more complex. If I personify it, it's a more complex being, you know,

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Speaker 1
You know. Wow. Did we actually finally agree on a fuck?

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Speaker 1
Yeah. I.

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Speaker 1
I hate that we had this discussion.

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Speaker 3
I, I.

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Speaker 1
Dammit! God damn it. God. It's been months.

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Speaker 1
Already? Apparently not. Because Femke is still here, and so is the goddamn IBM I. We've not changed. We've not grown, and I. I am a more broken man now.

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Speaker 1
I don't think so. I don't I was initially.

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Speaker 1
I think I want to start with.

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Speaker 1
Something maybe on the more negative side and maybe on a more relatable note.

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Speaker 1
the first time I had ever been cheated on was a puzzle piece that I. I didn't need this puzzle piece, but it did rush a lot of lessons about,

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Speaker 1
loyalty and toxicity and,

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Speaker 1
that puberty does really suck. And just a lot of things that I really needed, I think, pointed out to me.

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Speaker 1
the way that it happened was,

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Speaker 1
basically the the guy that was involved came to me and said, hey, this is happening. And I feel like you should know this is happening.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. And I just remember also thinking about that, and I don't in hindsight, I don't know if he did it as like a fucking cooking thing now, but the lesson I did take from it was that I kind of respected him for being real with me and being honest.

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Speaker 1
Whether it was for whatever, gratification doesn't matter to me anymore.

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Speaker 1
But yeah, I just learned that the relationship was bad.

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Speaker 1
And that relationship

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Speaker 1
ended badly, and then,

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Speaker 1
it it happened two more times

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Speaker 1
after that, and I just it it got easier to handle the grief of heartbreak.

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Speaker 1
it also taught me how I love and what my love should consist of and what love I deserve to receive, even if I didn't myself believe it in the moment.

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Speaker 1
Right. And it led to

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Speaker 1
one of the largest inflection points of my life, which is meeting Holly and dating Holly and being engaged to Holly. And not just Holly as the inflection point, because they showed me

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Speaker 1
the lessons that I had been carrying with me, and they showed me new lessons that I did not know. And I think.

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Speaker 1
Same.

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Speaker 1
And it's just nice to finally see the puzzle pieces connect in a way

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Speaker 1
that made it easier to manage.

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Speaker 1
What love really is, which is it is work and it is patience, and it is fiery and it is

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Speaker 1
great

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Speaker 1
it would not have gotten me there had I, I guess, maybe not been

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Speaker 1
through it.

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Speaker 1
in my other long term relationships.

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Speaker 1
Oh, fascinating.

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Speaker 1
Yeah I,

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Speaker 1
That's so interesting. And acting impulsively and destructively as a result, learning a lesson and also it reminded me that in one of, and I want to say like my second long term relationship that ended in cheating, I also tried to make it work and. No. No, because I just wasn't listening to anybody.

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Speaker 1
I couldn't hear them. I couldn't hear anybody give me advice. And that was the lesson I took from that moment. And also just learning what it's like to fall out of love with somebody kind of sucks. That realization that

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Speaker 1
loss of that fire and the loss of that,

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Speaker 1
relationship and

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Speaker 1
what leads to like a level of

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Speaker 1
loneliness that you have to

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Speaker 1
come to terms with.

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Speaker 1
it sucks. It doesn't feel

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Speaker 1
real

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Speaker 1
for a while, and then you just kind of,

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Speaker 1
it just you go numb to it.

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Speaker 1
aside from the heartbreak

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Speaker 1
notes,

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Speaker 1
what inflection point do you have in mind?

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Speaker 1
Sure.

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Speaker 1
I do.

00:24:44:05 - 00:24:53:06
Speaker 1
I didn't know until very recently that, that, well even until this moment, even that, this, that, that was the relationship that you both held.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
and I think that life is about finding

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Speaker 1
mentors and also being mentored by life, which is I think what these inflection points really are, are the, the neither positive nor negative lessons that we take from

00:25:13:05 - 00:25:14:14
Speaker 1
those kind of events.

00:25:14:14 - 00:25:17:00
Speaker 1
that domino effect was crazy.

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Speaker 1
I agree, yeah.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:26:06:25 - 00:26:10:02
Speaker 1
I agree, because that band

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Speaker 1
saved my life.

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Speaker 1
know, I've said this to you on multiple occasions over the years.

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Speaker 1
think without

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Speaker 1
that creative outlet and

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Speaker 1
learning to actually collaborate properly,

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Speaker 1
don't think I would have gotten through college.

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Speaker 1
the mutual friend

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Speaker 1
is, is one of the reasons why I think we were able to really come truly together because we were we were on the same team, certainly for a while.

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Speaker 1
But adding adding him in is what brought the collaborative structure to the band and to the to the music and to the,

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Speaker 1
to to like a modern era even, because we were just kind of doing things even from memory to a degree.

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Speaker 1
Yep.

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Speaker 1
it helped me mature in a way that I didn't,

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Speaker 1
know I needed.

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Speaker 1
And I still have, and he won't believe it, but I still have this thing he gave me before college that he said, I think he meant it as a joke, but it just is this cursive metal thing that just says relax.

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Speaker 1
And it has moved with me everywhere I've ever lived, because I do need to remember to do that sometimes

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Speaker 1
especially being, you know, when I was on really undiagnosed ADHD, unmedicated ADHD, which is another whole inflection point thing that I'm sure we'll get into. But yeah, but I still have that. I'm looking at it right now.

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Speaker 1
I have it hung up on my wall right by my desk, where I do all of my work, where I know that I just need to relax.

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Speaker 3
What the what?

00:28:04:17 - 00:28:06:04
Speaker 1
I.

00:28:08:16 - 00:28:12:21
Speaker 1
anyway, next inflection point.

00:28:17:21 - 00:28:19:17
Speaker 1
Oh, oh.

00:28:19:19 - 00:28:21:08
Speaker 3
All the time. I.

00:28:24:24 - 00:28:32:28
Speaker 1
It depends on my audience. It depends on if there's a microphone around. And it depends. Yeah.

00:28:32:28 - 00:28:41:00
Speaker 1
I want to be very clear. For me, it's never anything discriminatory because I know a lot of what people think of as the worst thing they could possibly said. It's not like that. No, it's.

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Speaker 1
Or like I prolapsed my anus and left it somehow,

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Speaker 1
Right.

00:29:12:12 - 00:29:18:17
Speaker 1
I think that's also just our brain rotting from being on the internet basically our entire lives.

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Speaker 1
When anything could be said and it had no repercussion. And this is not me saying that that's how we need to be, because certainly not,

00:29:29:04 - 00:29:39:16
Speaker 1
the untamed internet was not a place to be. It was awful. It was toxic. It was racist. It was. It was evil. Like there was a lot of evil there. There was a lot of hatred.

00:29:44:17 - 00:29:46:08
Speaker 1
Sometimes. Very funny. Yes.

00:30:08:15 - 00:30:19:23
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's still a thing. I mean, Reddit still hosts some of that stuff, and I for channel is still real. And apparently eight channel, which is news to me. I'm not that is not that is like not something I was.

00:31:26:01 - 00:31:27:19
Unknown
Medium risk.

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Speaker 1
I've always had this thing about art, music in general that it is for it, like it is by the people and for the people and the artists that were obsessed with making money.

00:31:47:14 - 00:31:52:11
Speaker 1
really took it all to court and, like, took down Napster and all that stuff.

00:31:52:11 - 00:31:53:16
Speaker 1
Metallica, I believe.

00:31:54:12 - 00:31:57:02
Speaker 1
I think so. I'll have to fact check that later,

00:31:59:17 - 00:32:08:02
Speaker 1
The artists that want your art, their art to be heard or seen, whatever, were very much behind the piracy movement. Certainly.

00:32:08:25 - 00:32:20:23
Speaker 1
And I think that there's something beautiful about that, about recognizing that. And sure, artists should be compensated for their work. You know, I believe that I fully believe in that. I just think that

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Speaker 1
the more people that hear you as an artist, as a music artist, especially, the better off you are.

00:32:27:27 - 00:32:29:01
Speaker 1
Overall.

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Speaker 1
Always.

00:33:17:17 - 00:33:26:21
Speaker 1
Yeah. You have to wait for official releases and whatever the legal stuff is for Spotify. And Apple Music and whatever. Yeah.

00:33:47:09 - 00:34:02:13
Speaker 1
when you allow your music to be just streamed or what have you and I know it's harder for smaller artists. Trust me, I'm actively one as I'm recording this, I, I just think that the more people, especially as a musician that hear your stuff,

00:34:02:13 - 00:34:06:07
Speaker 1
you're gonna get their patronage in other ways,

00:34:06:26 - 00:34:11:10
Speaker 1
But I think pay walling art is not the way that art should

00:34:14:13 - 00:34:16:01
Speaker 1
Oh, I mean, it always has been.

00:34:32:19 - 00:34:34:07
Speaker 1
Yeah. Fire away!

00:34:59:08 - 00:35:04:11
Speaker 1
I guess that being shame averse is a fear. Being a versus something is a fear.

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Speaker 1
Well, considering you're anywhere between 55 and 200 right now is. That's huge. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
God. I want fan art of that so bad.

00:36:35:21 - 00:36:41:24
Speaker 1
So, wait, I, I just want to be very, very clear. So you are animated in a still frame no matter what.

00:36:44:28 - 00:36:50:03
Speaker 1
An animated. Oh, my God.

00:36:50:03 - 00:36:54:16
Speaker 1
But I'm sorry I had to get that in there. You were saying?

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Speaker 3
Oh, fuck.

00:37:17:16 - 00:37:18:15
Speaker 1
It's so goddamn.

00:37:18:15 - 00:37:20:25
Speaker 3
Ambiguous.

00:37:38:13 - 00:37:40:11
Speaker 1
I was there, maybe.

00:38:04:23 - 00:38:24:01
Speaker 1
And I think what people really struggle with on that. No. And what I am currently struggling with is not so much the stigma, but the acceptance that I. That my successes are still successes despite it all.

00:38:25:06 - 00:38:34:27
Speaker 1
my successes are not because I am medicated. My successes are not because I am diagnosed. My successes are my successes are my successes.

00:38:34:27 - 00:38:37:10
Speaker 1
Period. Do you know what I mean?

00:38:37:18 - 00:38:47:19
Speaker 1
No, it doesn't help. Certainly. Is it a tool? Certainly. But do I think that it deserves credit for really anything above that? No.

00:39:24:21 - 00:39:45:25
Speaker 1
I think that's huge. I self-awareness and introspection is scary for people. And I'm glad that you had a pair of glasses to look at life through in that way, because it taught me so much. After my diagnosis at 28,

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Speaker 1
and after years of shaming myself, decades even of shaming myself

00:39:53:13 - 00:40:01:11
Speaker 1
your insight was so invaluable to me that, yeah, my my diagnosis was certainly,

00:40:01:11 - 00:40:08:15
Speaker 1
an inflection point, but our discussions of it were the actual lessons learned.

00:40:08:18 - 00:40:35:09
Speaker 1
You told me one time that having ADHD is like driving your car in manual and not automatic for a lot of things. And now that I view things through that lens that you gifted me, I am able to build systems that are better for me, and I'm able to contextualize a lot of things that I couldn't before. And it's like, no, that makes sense.

00:40:47:20 - 00:40:49:18
Speaker 1
No, no, it's it's just the truth.

00:40:49:25 - 00:41:03:02
Speaker 1
You have been a very large part of my life, and you have been a very big reason I've learned a lot of these lessons, even pre formal diagnosis. You are why I was able to like, kind of

00:41:03:02 - 00:41:14:08
Speaker 1
stay glued together through college especially. And I, I don't think I have said that out loud to you and I think you deserve credit where it's due.

00:41:14:09 - 00:41:30:04
Speaker 1
Much like our mutual friend like I he's going to learn all of this through this podcast. But maybe we're better off saying these things to each other as men in the long term, just in real life.

00:41:55:09 - 00:42:01:16
Speaker 1
I really, really, really need you to change your word choice.

00:42:09:07 - 00:42:15:22
Speaker 1
Oh, I already blocked his number.

00:42:15:25 - 00:42:16:09
Speaker 1
He can't.

00:42:16:09 - 00:42:24:18
Speaker 3
No, he can't, he can't.

00:42:26:21 - 00:42:41:01
Speaker 1
I just I, I just I know that these moments that we've listed are so vital to who we are. And there's. There's hundreds, if not thousands more. I'm sure that we don't actively think about or,

00:42:41:01 - 00:42:44:03
Speaker 1
puzzle pieces we might even still be putting together. But.

00:43:02:20 - 00:43:14:06
Speaker 1
honestly, man, we talk, we joke about this, I think and I think part we, we we certainly mean it to a degree. I really think had you and I not met,

00:43:14:06 - 00:43:20:29
Speaker 1
that I would either not be here anymore, like there is, there is a universe without a,

00:43:20:29 - 00:43:22:15
Speaker 1
Jordan around.

00:43:22:15 - 00:43:23:29
Speaker 1
Many of them, I'm sure.

00:43:23:29 - 00:43:27:09
Speaker 1
Or I would be full on incel,

00:43:27:09 - 00:43:44:29
Speaker 1
I would probably be a very big part of the problem we have today. And I'm just grateful to not be on the wrong side of history and to also just be, you know, you are not. I will not allow like I'll let you paint yourself as 12 to 15ft.

00:43:44:29 - 00:43:55:15
Speaker 1
I'll let you tell people how many limbs you have. I'll let you even have an ambiguous age anywhere between 55 and 200. I will not let you tell people that you are an incel.

00:43:57:26 - 00:44:00:05
Speaker 1
I certainly may have fallen into that.

00:44:00:05 - 00:44:20:15
Speaker 1
that's a big part of the reason why I needed to go into such serious debt for college so that I could live away from home, that that was a big inflection point for me as well. I needed to be on my own. I needed to know what autonomy really, really, really was like, and I needed to be out of my comfort zone.

00:44:20:15 - 00:44:30:13
Speaker 1
And I do that with my entire life. Now I if it's out of my comfort zone, I'm, I'm, I'm more likely as I get older to try it.

00:44:30:18 - 00:44:31:17
Speaker 1
Actually, yeah.

00:44:40:25 - 00:44:41:19
Speaker 1
No,

00:44:41:19 - 00:44:42:20
Speaker 1
I don't think I would.

00:44:42:28 - 00:44:44:27
Speaker 1
I've thought about this a lot,

00:44:44:27 - 00:44:47:10
Speaker 1
would, I, would I change

00:44:47:10 - 00:44:54:12
Speaker 1
anything? Probably not. I like having the knowledge I have now.

00:44:54:12 - 00:45:10:03
Speaker 1
There are maybe a couple things that I would be like. I don't really want to go through that again, but I am I am actually stronger for it. And it is nice to be living proof of that, no matter how low my brain decides to take me.

00:46:05:03 - 00:46:15:14
Speaker 1
Giving oneself grace is difficult. And I think that's it. I'm sorry. What?

00:46:15:16 - 00:46:18:24
Speaker 1
Oh, it's super hot. It's so hot. Yeah,

00:46:18:24 - 00:46:19:26
Speaker 1
I think about

00:46:19:26 - 00:46:21:05
Speaker 1
people saying,

00:46:21:05 - 00:46:27:08
Speaker 1
live like, live life without regret, and they usually mean it in a very YOLO fashion.

00:46:33:29 - 00:46:43:05
Speaker 1
Oh, it certainly has. But I think the way I take it is very much the puzzle piece route, which is

00:46:43:05 - 00:47:02:17
Speaker 1
you may regret that some things happened, especially in the moment, so deeply regret it in the moment. But if you live long enough, eventually those moments are no longer regrets, but lessons or experiences or something. Or at the very, very, very least,

00:47:02:17 - 00:47:03:27
Speaker 1
a good story.

00:47:42:23 - 00:47:43:08
Speaker 1
Yeah,

00:47:53:15 - 00:48:01:19
Speaker 1
the only thing I wish I could do as far as bending time in this way, would be to go tell

00:48:01:19 - 00:48:06:08
Speaker 1
a much younger me that it's going to be okay,

00:48:06:08 - 00:48:07:04
Speaker 1
that

00:48:07:04 - 00:48:07:20
Speaker 1
it

00:48:07:20 - 00:48:09:09
Speaker 1
too shall pass.

00:48:12:15 - 00:48:20:19
Speaker 1
I mean, I would probably show myself first, like a hot second and then be like that too shall pass, you know, like it gets better, bro.

00:48:20:19 - 00:48:27:07
Speaker 1
Like you find somebody who actually knows how to cut some goddamn hair and you'll be fine.

00:48:27:09 - 00:48:29:28
Speaker 3
Anything. It's time.

00:48:43:05 - 00:48:46:05
Speaker 1
it's part of evolving. Because the second you stop

00:48:46:05 - 00:48:47:09
Speaker 1
changing,

00:48:47:09 - 00:49:07:12
Speaker 1
the second you go. I'm the same person I was last year. Apathy is death. That's. That's when you know, you have to change something up. That's when you know that there is a lesson left unlearned and and a part of your identity left untapped in whatever way that is.

00:49:09:17 - 00:49:17:28
Speaker 1
You're gonna carry that weight. And that is. That is a quote that stuck with me for very, very, very, very, very long time.

00:49:23:17 - 00:49:31:09
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. That's my that's my favorite. I fucking love, yeah. My favorite character from the.

00:49:45:12 - 00:49:56:20
Speaker 1
I'm just imagining him going toe to toe with vicious, and I can't unsee it. I.

00:49:56:22 - 00:50:01:27
Speaker 1
Cowboy bebop, but it's Bernie Sanders correcting the correcting at all.

00:50:10:15 - 00:50:28:23
Speaker 1
know no. We're going to. Nope. This is the end of the episode. This is where the episode ends. The episode ends right here. I also, I also realized that I just want to remain as much of an enigma as I can until people piece together these episodes in their totality and go, this was this was how this person lived.

00:50:29:00 - 00:50:37:17
Speaker 1
That's that's the shame.

00:50:37:20 - 00:50:48:02
Speaker 1
Hey, that's all you need a tool to be like this.

00:50:48:02 - 00:50:55:24
Speaker 1
on my tombstone, we just need to write. At least he was funny. And then I'll feel better about things.

00:51:01:15 - 00:51:03:14
Speaker 1
There you go. I'll take that.

00:51:19:14 - 00:51:20:13
Speaker 1
love rain.

00:51:21:01 - 00:51:21:20
Speaker 1
But

00:51:21:20 - 00:51:22:13
Speaker 1
listen, listener,

00:51:22:13 - 00:51:31:03
Speaker 1
I need you to tell us how you felt on our social medias. You can tell us on Instagram threads or blue sky.

00:51:55:20 - 00:52:02:24
Speaker 1
And I just want to hear about your inflection points. And if you like the episode. So thank you so, so much for being distracted with us.

00:52:15:23 - 00:52:23:06
Speaker 1
don't know if I'll. I try.