Distraction Dive
Semi-scripted, occasionally well researched deep dives by two STEM background straight dudes who are too into their feelings. Expect random tangents, mild existential crises, and way too much time spent dissecting their feelings, sometimes followed up with an MLA styled bibliography about it.
Distraction Dive
Episode 2: Would You Rather?
This week on Distraction Dive, Red and Del throw logic out the window (as if we ever had any) and dive headfirst into a game of Would You Rather?
Expect laughter, questionable life choices, and the kind of chaotic energy only two neurodivergent besties can bring. Buckle up, because even we don’t know where this is going.
00:00:00:00 - 00:00:43:37
Unknown
Hello, hello. Hello, everyone. My name is TrueRedRevenge and welcome back to Distraction Dive. I once tried meditating, but I ended up overthinking every conversation I've ever had since the year 2001. I wow, I had something to offer up, but that's a lot. That's a lot of text. So? So I have some. So I have some questions. One sitting?
00:00:43:42 - 00:01:05:11
Unknown
No, it was, it was multiple attempts. Okay. Yeah. So it's multiple attempts at meditating. So all of the conversations since 2001 but broke it up. Yeah. Unfortunately it still means it was condensed because I only tried maybe for a month worth of. So yeah. Yeah, it's it's a lot of years, a lot of years, a lot of conversations.
00:01:05:11 - 00:01:26:54
Unknown
I've had every single one of them. I don't love how you made overkill feel like Under Kill by adding the values there, but having said that, I am Dell, and one time I found a winning lottery ticket on the ground and I gave it to a British person. I have some life regrets and that's definitely one. Is that actually true?
00:01:26:56 - 00:01:47:45
Unknown
Wait. Hold up. Wait. Well, in part, so the lottery ticket I found on the ground. True that it was in Britain. True. I would never give a gift like that to a British person. And I'm honestly sorry that I even made that into a bit of, No, I gave it to, an American person.
00:01:47:45 - 00:02:12:13
Unknown
I think somebody from the Commonwealth who had an accent. They talked more through their nose and the way that I'm familiar with and so they were crying about, I think they failed some exam that they're studying abroad or something. Anyway, it was, the winning ticket was like a trip around, like the English south coast, which is nice, but I had no means nor particular interest in cashing it.
00:02:12:18 - 00:02:31:16
Unknown
So I gave it to somebody who looked like they were having a bad day. Well, that's actually very kind of you. Mine was more like, how could I have won that argument? Back in 2006 that nobody else remembers but me? I do that far more frequently. I mean, that's like, you know, I'm just performing for my shower bottles.
00:02:31:21 - 00:02:53:24
Unknown
I absolutely shampoo bottles. What's a shower? But. Today I wanted us to kind of take it a little easy, maybe a little bit. Maybe it might get difficult. Who knows? Might get heated. But I thought we would walk through some...Would you rather, that I just, like, pulled from the internet and made up on the spot? Are you down? Oh. I'm ready. Oh, I love these.
00:02:53:36 - 00:03:17:43
Unknown
Do you really? Oh, I love these. They're in the category of, you know who you got in a fight, right? It's it's it's good. I mean, I don't know, it's bad. I should think about more productive things, but I love it. We will have to do that. Who would win in the fight episode at some point? That does maybe deserve its own episode, but I am going to be asking you that at times, as you know.
00:03:17:49 - 00:03:44:57
Unknown
Yeah, that that's totally that's totally chill. Okay. Do you want to start with a more serious or would you want to start silly? I think you know what? Give me the serious one. Give you a serious one. Okay. This is like picking truth and truth. There it is, isn't it? Would you rather be remembered for your accomplishments after you die, or live a comfortable life and be forgotten?
00:03:45:01 - 00:04:07:52
Unknown
That's a good one, I thought, I think I want to be remembered posthumously, but I'll struggle during. Yeah, I don't know. I think about this a lot. I think about the idea of a legacy a lot. I think about the idea of leaving a message behind and leaving the world behind better than when I came into it.
00:04:07:57 - 00:04:32:20
Unknown
And so I think a lot about do I want that assigned to me, or do I just want that out in like, the zeitgeist, for example? No, that's fair. And I feel like I fall somewhere in the middle because I don't know if I want to be remembered for only my accomplishments. I think, like I'm getting more pedantic with this question, than I should, because I think if you live a comfortable life to assume that you would be forgotten.
00:04:32:20 - 00:04:51:43
Unknown
You know, I think after a certain amount of time, like, that's that's the idea of being temporary, right? Like this person only existed during this time, and only these people got a chance to experience that and remember that and hold that till their graves, you know. Yeah. That you missed the supreme drop. Sorry. That's what it is. All right.
00:04:51:48 - 00:05:11:52
Unknown
So it took me a second to process what you meant. Yeah. It really is that right? It's it's it's a little bit of like I think there's like some you almost want to give people a little bit of FOMO. So I think I would also like to be remembered for, but maybe not necessarily for a specifically for accomplishments but just remembered, you know, fondly.
00:05:11:58 - 00:05:35:38
Unknown
I yeah, I like that. And yeah, I'm in a similar camp so I it's a good way to think about it. For me I kind of considered it in this sort of. So I kind of got into what are the accomplishments going to be? And I first started jumping to, you know, like career and some of my creative ventures or whatever the hell else.
00:05:35:38 - 00:05:55:37
Unknown
Right. But then I kind of like the idea that something well, let me add another thing. You also said something about making the place or leaving the place better, you know, better than when you found it. Yeah. So I, I haven't really I don't like to or I don't maybe just think about it that way as much.
00:05:55:37 - 00:06:25:22
Unknown
But I do like the idea of net positivity, you know, the intake and the output are weighed against one another and they pass muster very anew. This weighs your heart against not kind of thing. So I like that also. And to that end, I kind of like the idea of being remembered posthumously for my accomplishments. But because I think that other people whom I have hopefully impacted with net positivity will be able to decide what those are.
00:06:25:37 - 00:06:47:33
Unknown
And so, I would like then, because I hope maybe I've done some things that I didn't even know that I did, because when I think of my own list of things I have accomplished, I don't know, you know, I mean, we're Brian be sabotaging, but yeah, I would love to know what good things are. Maybe it's going to be something like, you know, it'd be really cool if it was like that.
00:06:47:38 - 00:07:11:13
Unknown
Early or mid 2000 movie Oscar bait thing. Crash. Where it's like, I, I don't know, picked up something that somebody dropped and that inspired them to, like, not do a genocide. I don't know, you know what I mean? Even that would be cool. It relies on this idea that you're going to be able to get the receipts later, and I don't yeah.
00:07:11:22 - 00:07:45:46
Unknown
You know, fine. Whatever. But still, I don't think I need the receipts. That's for me. Right. So yeah. Hey, in the end, I just think that, like, living and, like, because of how critical I am to me, what I consider accomplishments aren't necessarily what other people consider to be accomplishments, necessarily, or, what they consider to be my accomplishing sense, of like who I am as a person, the way I've affected them and whatever lessons they carry with that, for example, like something that I never would have assumed I would have learned until it happened.
00:07:45:46 - 00:08:03:48
Unknown
Like when my grandmother passed away, earlier this year. I just I was just like, you know, the accomplish the the accomplishment to me. There is she taught me how to love better. She taught me how to love more actively. And I think the people around me that teach me that. Oh, yeah, I think I knew that.
00:08:03:54 - 00:08:26:38
Unknown
Yeah, I mean, I, I talked about it in therapy shortly after it happened and like what? And she, you know, my therapist asked me, what will you remember, what will you carry with you? Because you're clearly going to like, carry that weight. So what is it? And that's the weight, right. The, the weight of knowing that she loved my sister and I and Holly and my sister's partner.
00:08:26:47 - 00:08:51:52
Unknown
She was just so great about being an like, such an active participant in love. But that's a that's a story for another time. But yeah, I and so like, those are the accomplishments I think of. Do I leave behind something that is going to be remembered in a positive way? Did I leave something behind that is going to have an effect on somebody like me after me?
00:08:51:52 - 00:09:16:03
Unknown
But I'm so strict about my accomplishments, what what I consider to be an accomplishment. So to be remembered for that would be, I fear in my mind, very little. And I feel like that would be a very haunting thing to live by, to like. Well, I either live to be remembered or I live to be forgotten. And I don't think there's I don't think the question is hard because, like, it's not really a binary choice there.
00:09:16:13 - 00:09:39:27
Unknown
Well, that's fair, I guess if I really get into it, for me, I have a similar series of things that worry me as far as whether or not or, let me put it the other way, where or how my accomplishments would rank in terms of their, you know, impact, let's say. Yeah, I agree, I don't know, as is.
00:09:39:32 - 00:10:01:33
Unknown
I just I trust the people that I care about or cared about enough posthumously, I guess, in the space, I care about them enough and trust them enough to decide what those things were, you know, and that, you know, I just did my best while I was drawing breath to decide what I could and couldn't accomplish. Yeah.
00:10:01:33 - 00:10:23:47
Unknown
I mean, you I think that's what it is, right? Like, did I do my best and I and I think I'm hoping by time I get to this point where I have to, where I probably will think about this, like in a more serious fashion, not just a hypothetical one, that I'm sitting there or laying there in my deathbed thinking that the answer is yes.
00:10:23:47 - 00:10:41:19
Unknown
I did do my best. I did the best I possibly could, no matter when that time comes. Very. That was a very how I hope I'm like, Jesus, that was awesome, man. Like that was, that was it. You you you even promised me you were like, it's a serious one. Well, then I guess you must be ready for the fun one.
00:10:41:24 - 00:11:03:07
Unknown
And would you rather I am ready for the fun one? Would you rather go scream every time you sneeze or, duck, quack every time you blink? Like I emit that sound that sounds out? You would admit that sound. And I know, I know my answer. My answer is goat scream. Oh, dude, this is easy. Goat scream. Dude, that's so metal.
00:11:03:12 - 00:11:28:17
Unknown
Fucking duck quack. Every time my eyes blink, every time my eyelids make contact, like I'm fucking Squidward Tentacles walking around, bro. Yeah, and I know that's disrespectful. I would never adapt, I would, I would drive myself fucking crazy. Not to mention when people have a funny sound, when they sneeze, it's always like, it's always like. And yeah, it's always a bit.
00:11:28:17 - 00:11:45:55
Unknown
It's always like an in-joke, like the the group that heard is like, that was your sneeze. Like it's a, it's a I think it's a conversation starter to begin with. Like where, where why do you why do you sneeze that way? Oh, I made a deal with a fucking demigod. Oh it's scream dude. Yeah, because I, because I'm fucking brutal.
00:11:45:55 - 00:12:17:42
Unknown
That's why I like it. Because every morning I floss with barbed wire. That's fucking why. See, I'm imagining this in the way of, like, the Taylor Swift. I knew you were trouble. Goat scream. That's how I'm imagining that. And, the. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude, you're saying that scream everything that I said don't. I love that you were working from a more musical premise, and I said, no, it's not.
00:12:17:52 - 00:12:47:58
Unknown
I mean, I guess it is kind of like my my, my goat false chord screams, but actually you're talking. Yeah. No, I did triple down actually. Yeah. I mean honestly like even even either or. Right. Like you're sneezing I hope less than you're blinking. Yeah. Yeah okay okay okay okay. Counterpoint. If your sneeze and blink rate equalizes out into the average of the two or so, it's exactly even.
00:12:47:58 - 00:13:10:19
Unknown
Right. Like it splits the difference. Yep, yep. I would easily change your answer. I would kill myself. Well, first of all, suicide is the answer here. Obviously, I direct it. I'm paying premium subscription for premium services ad free at that point. Yeah yeah yeah. High key. But like, you know, if you to pick oh man. Yeah I don't know man.
00:13:10:19 - 00:13:34:17
Unknown
I the if it were equal and there isn't an option to like end it all. I would, I would probably need to pick one first. I would probably do the duck quack just simply because the sound itself is more innocuous than goat screaming because, like, if I'm like, I'm counting my blinks consciously right now, I'm trying.
00:13:34:17 - 00:13:52:01
Unknown
Not a god, God damn it. I'm like, I wasn't until you said that. I know and I can't stop. And I'm like, if I'm sneezing as much as this, as much as this is occurring, oh my God, I wouldn't want to hear that goat scream. Whether it's heavy metal or fucking. I knew you were a trouble goat scream that often.
00:13:52:01 - 00:14:15:01
Unknown
I would rather hear the duck quack that often. Wait, should we just do some quick googling? Like, I just want to know what hurts you? How many times per, I don't know, a year? Does a person sneeze on average? I am actually curious. Let me know. Oh, the NIH has done some shit on this lecture. Oh, of course they have.
00:14:15:01 - 00:14:38:20
Unknown
I wouldn't. They because they're not a company. They're not a private interest. And so they can answer these questions that are on our mind bro. Profit motive. Fuck that curiosity motive. Right. That's what science is all about is the curiosity motive. But unfortunately that's a that's a topic for another time. Yeah. Capitalism. But that's topic for another problem.
00:14:38:31 - 00:15:03:53
Unknown
Yeah. Or another day. Whatever. Fuck. Same thing in this study. The daily number of sneezes and of nose blowing were recorded in diary cards over a 14 day period by 80 hospital employees and medical students who considered themselves not to suffer from rhinitis. Okay, first of all, Bjarne Hansen and Niels begin my end. Sorry. This is published, by the way, in the journal, of Ryan ology.
00:15:03:58 - 00:15:37:19
Unknown
In 2002 March. This is kind of a faulty study in terms of its, design and population size, which is admittedly all the details I have revealed about it. You said 80 or 90, right? 80 hospital employees and medical students who consider themselves not to suffer from rhinitis, which is not me at this time. The same the results showed that more than 95% of the normal persons sneezed and blew the nose less than four times their on average, less than four times.
00:15:37:21 - 00:16:02:31
Unknown
Okay. And this is in the context of trying to say, if they that four times or more is a sign of rhinitis. So I'm going to be a responsible Stem background scientist and run with this data and extrapolate wildly. So, let's say that the average life span of a person, should we do worldwide? Yeah, let's do let's do globally.
00:16:02:36 - 00:16:43:48
Unknown
Okay. 71.3 years, which is an increase from the last time this was assessed, apparently in 1900. In this view, an increase of about 40 something years. However, I'm going to click an actual fucking article because the Google AI gives you very wrong info very often. As most generative, I will. I was listening to an episode of Behind the Bastards, and in it a tidbit that he, Robert Evans revealed was that, when he was doing the research for the Thomas Jefferson episodes, he the I got the date of his or the year of his birth or death, I don't remember which.
00:16:43:48 - 00:17:11:48
Unknown
Anyway, a discrete quantity. Well, something that's that's on a permanent record somewhere and it got it wrong. Yeah. Because the internet bullshit and the, the. I can't discern the difference. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, so average life expectancy for the world is around 73 years, 73.33. But I'm going to round down. That's fine. 106,652 times. Jesus. So that's how many times you'll sneeze in life.
00:17:11:52 - 00:17:41:44
Unknown
Holy shit. On average, assuming that average. Yeah, the 7073 year average. Right. So 106,652. Yeah. For a 73 year average. Now if I take that and let's say how many times does a person blink for a year. Oh, God. 5.2 and 7.1 million times per year, approximately from health line, which is kind of a suss source. But whatever this is.
00:17:41:49 - 00:18:06:16
Unknown
So we're going to lowball that at 5.2 million. Oh yeah, 19 billion, 800, 6,800,000 for what? That's how many times you blink in life if you lived to be 73. And that's if you lowball the range that it gave. So we're averaging that and we're saying, hey, what if it was equal? Yeah. No, I'm killing myself. I don't care about the question anymore.
00:18:06:16 - 00:18:25:31
Unknown
No. Yeah. Right away. You know, God if I do racism, but holy shit, Bill, I'm going to leave this open on my Google so that later I'm going to be closing through tabs. And this could be months in advance, but I'm going to come back to this and I'm going to see this number, which generated as text spelled out, by the way.
00:18:25:33 - 00:18:39:07
Unknown
Oof, because it's such a large number, it is a large number. I'm going to leave that here and hopefully forget why I looked it up. And that's really going to be a delightful surprise for me later.
00:18:39:12 - 00:19:04:34
Unknown
All right, I got one for you. Oh, good. Excellent. What do you got? Okay, imagine for yourself. I'm closing my eyes. Okay, great. Perfect. Now, don't tell me what it is, okay? But I want you to imagine for yourself the perfect, like a live music event. Okay? Be a band. It could be an artist. It could be a musical.
00:19:04:39 - 00:19:37:10
Unknown
It could be anything. Are you imagining it? Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. So you got to go there. All right? You get to sit in the front row. But, but but at the end of it think of the person, the most annoying person you can think of for because they're smug. They're the person that got you into the group and they are going to talk to you the rest of your life about how aren't you glad that they showed you this sounds personal.
00:19:37:10 - 00:19:57:21
Unknown
Are you going to go? This sounds personal, dude. It sounds like you have a story to tell. I that's so specific. Okay, okay. It's that's it. Oh, I see why you're saying what you're saying. I wish I had a good story to reveal to you about this, but I don't I just I just imagined this unique bite of suffering for us both.
00:19:57:25 - 00:20:20:30
Unknown
I'm honestly, like, really relieved that you don't, Thanks me to, I'm also relieved that I don't, I mean, insufferable and smug. In what way? Like, can you give me, like, an example of something they would say about, like, so the events over, it's been like, let's say, like it's the day after, for example. So for me.
00:20:20:34 - 00:20:45:37
Unknown
Yeah. No, I got you. Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right. So for me, the it's a concert by of my favorite band, or one of my most influential or I was influenced by the bands. Right. And afterward, I'm with that individual. And what they keep saying is, aren't you glad I keep telling or people keep asking me right where they're like, how to go?
00:20:45:37 - 00:21:04:25
Unknown
You know, you were so excited to see them. And I'm like, oh, it was so good. Transformative. They were so good. And this guy is like, aren't you glad I showed you them? I showed him them like, he's super into them and it's because of me. You know what? I would be totally okay with that. I oh yeah.
00:21:04:25 - 00:21:27:52
Unknown
The reason being is that I know that the people around me would get sick and tired of hearing that guy or that human being say that. Same thing about showing me that band. Every time that concert comes up, I would be told, because eventually they will be. They'll be like, oh, that's actually like really cool that you like, you know, shared this moment, shared this bonding moment.
00:21:27:52 - 00:21:50:15
Unknown
And eventually, even if they did it until the the day they fucking die, there will still be that they will. Right? And that there's that little thing in the back of everybody's heads of like, well, glad he's gone. Glad that that's fair. You know, like because that's so that that that is so it's such a hipster thing to do.
00:21:50:20 - 00:22:14:34
Unknown
It is a very hipster. And hipster culture has become so the norm that doing that would be be perceived as just like the most annoying thing on the planet. Well that's true, okay, I agree, no, no, I'm with you, I think I do the same. Does it change your answer? If it turns out that the guy is distractingly like weirdly hot, the man or whatever, whatever the gender is, they're distractingly, weirdly hot.
00:22:14:34 - 00:22:39:29
Unknown
Are you are you supposing that their attractiveness level lessens how annoying that that behavior is perceived as? No, but people are less. It takes some longer to get mad at him or her or them. And I mean, are they doing this daily? Not not being hot. So saying like, obviously they wake up hot, that's oh no. No. Yeah.
00:22:39:34 - 00:22:56:27
Unknown
What. No they're not they chose not to be. They just chose not to be hot. That. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. They like hit the button. They're always hot when they do it to you though. And are they doing it daily. So you work with that person. So every time you see them at work, I interact with them.
00:22:56:27 - 00:23:21:25
Unknown
It all work. Hey, do you remember that band? Yeah. And anytime time that you hang out with work friends outside of that situation, this person will. If they're there, they're gonna bring it up. Oh. And if you go, like, on a vacation or something, or you're off, you know, from work, they will sometimes text you and be like, hey, the text I could deal with because my it's a voice note, actually.
00:23:21:30 - 00:23:45:09
Unknown
Oh, even easier to ignore. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. But on the occasion that I would hear it because obviously I would probably check it at least once out of curiosity, I probably would be, oh, dude, imagine if you ignore it, a different very set number of times it shows up at your house. If they were incessant about it, and I knew this about them going into it, I feel like that's on me.
00:23:45:14 - 00:24:09:40
Unknown
I keep calling him he because I'm thinking specific person I'm seeing. I'm seeing a male because I maybe because most of the, the, the women I know don't have that behavior outright. Yeah, it is a very male thing to do, I feel. Yeah. Especially one who's like, like two people who are super into music or super into like this particular band and they're like, what?
00:24:09:45 - 00:24:35:26
Unknown
And you know what? No, I would embrace it. I still say yes. And the reason being is I, I think this is them being excited about sharing this with somebody, sharing this experience with somebody that they've obviously cared enough to buy a front row ticket. Such a wholesome interpretation, I, I feel like that's the only way I would survive it, man.
00:24:35:31 - 00:25:02:03
Unknown
Because again, yeah, like I'm thinking becoming resilient. Yeah, I'm, I'm either I'm either now completely avoiding all live music events with this person, or I am just letting them be excitable about it. Sure. Take the credit for showing me, because you probably did take that, you know, like and I'll, I'll, I'll say thank you every single fucking time because like, everybody expresses themselves in those moments differently.
00:25:02:07 - 00:25:20:42
Unknown
That's fair. And I think it'd be saltier if it was someone I didn't like that much. I mean, same, you know, is like a medium, like I only like them kind of a group, that is, or the artists or whomever. I mean, I think it would probably diminish how often I listen to them, even if it meant, like, the world to me, even if it was like the best event ever.
00:25:20:42 - 00:25:45:51
Unknown
I probably like that over time would probably kill it for me, sure, but it's still one take away the moment that was shared between two human beings who are just like, excited to be a part of that event, you know? Dang respect. I think. Yeah. No, that's fair, I agree. Would you rather never age physically or mentally? Do I get to pick where, like when you stop aging?
00:25:45:55 - 00:26:18:07
Unknown
Yeah, sure. This is tough. See, I actually would rather never age physically. Probably starting now and just mentally grow. But I also wonder what it would be like to mentally and become like an ancient elder God. That is. Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't know if just such as if you're using vampirism, I kind of, I, I, I, I just, I think like what it is for me, it, I don't think the question itself implies immortality.
00:26:18:12 - 00:26:40:58
Unknown
No. Sure. You're just physically sharp until you die, but you might develop dementia, so technically. Right. And and now that you put it that way. And now that I think of it that way, I do find the question to be difficult. If, you know, it's hard, man, if immortality is at play easily physically, I would rather mentally be able to evolve with the time, and become the elder God.
00:26:40:58 - 00:27:10:45
Unknown
Right? And if immortality is off the table, probably if it's off the table, this is hard. And like, I eat because it's like, if immortality is off the table, then I'm boiling this down to basically do I want to be completely possessed of my faculties as my body decays around me, including conceivably like, I know this is always technically true.
00:27:10:49 - 00:27:35:21
Unknown
You could like, you know, be locked into your own vessel. I don't that makes me scared. That's then like, yeah, here's a thing to keep everybody awake at night. There's actually a type of, neural lesion that you can get a lesion, I shouldn't say. Anyway, there's a particular acute change that can happen to your body, sodium, that results in a syndrome called locked in syndrome because you get damage to your pons, which is I, I have heard of this, actually.
00:27:35:25 - 00:27:58:57
Unknown
Yeah. Central pontine myelin slices. While analysis. You would know better than I. I don't, because although I have, although I have a degree relevant. That should explain this. I did not learn the pronunciation properly, although I've heard lots of other difference. That was a Wikipedia deep dive for me for something very, similar to this question.
00:27:58:57 - 00:28:22:34
Unknown
And that's when I found. Yeah, yeah. I think if immortality is off the table, I guess I would rather age physically and probably stop aging mentally at like 40. Yeah, if I get to choose, if I get to choose the time that starts, I want to. If I get to choose, I want to be able to, like, have the button and press it because I'll know when it's time.
00:28:22:39 - 00:28:44:10
Unknown
You know? Yeah, I like the idea of having control over it. Yeah, but I agree. I think I would choose that. It would be two. I mean, I guess I could be able bodied and becoming demented. That would be funny. But it's kind of scary. Oh, you just become an anime protagonist, like trainer. Like you become the. That's what I'm saying.
00:28:44:15 - 00:29:09:29
Unknown
I'm like, yeah, I'm like that person in Skyrim, the the girl who is bitten by a vampire. She was a vampire. She was in the dark Brotherhood. And she was bitten as a child. Yeah, yeah. So I guess it could be that. But yo, people to get dementia, bro. In my line of work, I see a lot of elderly people, often elderly ladies that have dementia.
00:29:09:34 - 00:29:31:39
Unknown
Bro, when they get confused, they hulk out like I. I'm telling you. Like what? Forget whatever you seen about feats of human endurance and strength. Mom of a new baby, right? Lifts a car because she's like, whatever, right? It is an army because, like, she's protecting her baby. Forget it. Nobody has talked out harder than fucking Grandma Ethel in a nursing home with a mild UTI.
00:29:31:39 - 00:29:51:18
Unknown
I mean, I like the, mild part of that. That's very good, right? It is like any other person. I'm telling you, the shit's asymptomatic. Back to your area, which is to say like women's urinary tract or people who are assigned female at birth that have that anatomy. If you have that relevant anatomy, you can be colonized by bacteria.
00:29:51:19 - 00:30:23:13
Unknown
Asymptomatically, and in fact, like the wisdom there traditionally is, you don't do anything about it. But except for if the person is pregnant or whatever. But personally, I can tell you this from a very healthy sample size. Grandma Ethel with the mild is. Hi grandma Ethel's asymptomatic bacteria area is going to become symptomatic and the symptom is that she becomes fucking like all my pre fucking transfer of all for one one for all her.
00:30:23:18 - 00:30:53:40
Unknown
I have heard that, dementia as a concept scares me. Alzheimer's and dementia, that's same that's like forever for like, forever in my heart, I'm afraid. And that's definitely a driving force in the answer to my question. But ultimately, having given you this example, I agree I'm going to do the same. I get to pick one I age or like when it freezes, I'm letting my brain freeze, and then ultimately I'm going to rely on myself to do so before I become demented or my body so so, so immortality off the table.
00:30:53:40 - 00:31:18:12
Unknown
You would rather age physically and not mentally. As long as you get to choose. Yeah, as long as I get to choose the age. Yeah. Cool. Immortality on the table. Is it physical still, or do you just a and do you just let yourself age into, like, like a mythos? No, because I'm scared of what's going to happen.
00:31:18:12 - 00:31:37:10
Unknown
Do you ever watch Doctor Who? I don't want to be like the face of Boa, bro. Like, it's like, become like an immortal physical object. I do still have to watch Doctor Who, but I do know the reference. I have seen videos of the reference and, Yeah, I that's fair. That's right. There. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No. So I still think I choose the same thing I agree.
00:31:37:15 - 00:32:01:44
Unknown
Cool. And that's interesting. With immortality on the table, you would rather age physically with immortality on the table. I would rather age physically interesting. And then eventually die. Interesting. Well, if I eventually die. Sorry. No other way. Immortality on the table. I would rather age mentally, because then I'll be out of my fucking faculties. Ideally. Yeah.
00:32:01:44 - 00:32:19:52
Unknown
And I'm just like. Or, like, I guess if we, if mortality is on the table, then I'll find out what happens. Yeah. I mean, if immortality is on the table, I guess it depends on what quote unquote rules like, can your brain actually like, just because I mean, that would be horrifying to be alive forever, but still, like, age, like a regular human does.
00:32:19:57 - 00:32:41:25
Unknown
And like you would eventually get dementia. You would eventually have some degradation physically of the brain, one assumes. But if it's a more regenerative immortality, like, I don't know, oh, like Wolverine. Yeah. Like you would just age. You would be stuck physically at a certain age, and then mentally you would become, you know, you would just you would flow at the time.
00:32:41:25 - 00:33:01:41
Unknown
So you would just you like, you would retain all the experience instead of just, like blocking it all out. I don't know, I guess that depends. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of what ifs there. You got one for me? You got one? I'm formulating one, but give me another. Sure. In the meantime, actually, I want to ask one that has always, always, always, always, always pissed me off.
00:33:01:46 - 00:33:19:35
Unknown
Oh, okay. Okay. Would you rather fight one horse sized duck or a hundred duck sized horses? Oh, I fucking hate this. I hate it too. I gotta throw it out there because I want to shit on it, bro. I'm going to take one of anything because at the end of the day, it doesn't fucking matter. I can get lucky ones.
00:33:19:35 - 00:33:44:13
Unknown
I'm not going to get lucky a hundred times. Well, not to mention it's a horse sized duck. It's a duck. Even if, like, strength scales, I can be had it a lot easier than I could. Of course, birds that fly have hollow bones. I'm not getting taken by an osteoporotic ass fucking organism, right, right. You are so unbalanced compared to, like, a regular horse at this point.
00:33:44:15 - 00:34:11:02
Unknown
Yes. And like, why would I take on 100 of anything and 100 ducks? I do horses like ducks are. Ducks are aggressive anyway, you know, like, why the fuck would I, why would I fuck with that, bro? This is like asking, by the way, to choose between two. I've actually already answered this question in life. Resoundingly. And it is because it's basically the question between there's this event match and Super Smash Bros.
00:34:11:02 - 00:34:35:04
Unknown
Melee, okay? And one of them is like, you fight 128 mini Escher Marios. And the other one is like, I remember you fight a giant something. Oh that's right. Yeah, I remember, yeah, the 128 Mini Mario's was one of the most fucking difficult ones. Yeah, it took me so long, but I fought invisible Fox and Falco. I fought giant, whatever the fuck.
00:34:35:04 - 00:34:56:51
Unknown
You giant Yoshi, bro, you name it. Yeah. I mean, it's bigger. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. It's it's it's it is, it is this. And I can do it once I get lucky. Yeah. Right. And if I come out of it battered. Whatever. I fought a horse sized duck, bro. Yeah. Like whatever, man. I'm expecting to get battered a little bit, but I'm not getting beat by osteoporotic ass fucking organism, bro.
00:34:56:51 - 00:35:20:35
Unknown
Like, absolutely correct. I have never understood that one because I think what happens in our brains is I think numbers become more of an idea, than anything. 100 of anything is a lot of something. Any hundred of one thing put in a physical space is a lot. It's like Diddy's thousand bottles of baby oil. You know what I mean?
00:35:20:40 - 00:35:48:02
Unknown
Oh, wow. Yeah, I do now. I agree. And here's my other other other thing I guess. Okay. I'm going to quote one of my absolute favorite works of art, which is iRobot, which is the film in this case, basically, I am living proof that it is better to be lucky than it is to be smart. And I can get lucky against the one a horse sized duck.
00:35:48:07 - 00:36:11:58
Unknown
Do I think I'm going to get lucky a hundred times? No no no no no no no. Also, ducks are fowl. Oh, ducks are evil creatures. You promise me you're going to get that? Nope. Promise me you're going to call. Well, I almost said fowl. No, no, it's. It stands. Okay.
00:36:12:03 - 00:36:34:44
Unknown
I, I don't really know what that makes me feel, but I want you to know that I. I'm unhappy. But anyway, Yeah, ducks are evil, bro. Like, they're like some of the most cruel fucking creatures they are. And and but only again, only fighting one of them. Yeah, exactly. Plus, they're mean to other ducks, bro. I'm busting the horror size duck.
00:36:34:44 - 00:36:57:18
Unknown
And if I'm wrong, let it take me. I'm ready. Right. And I'll take my chances. I don't know how anybody can disagree with that. Like I've never heard a good argument against it because again, a hundred is a lot of anything. And a hundred forces, even at duck size is gonna hurt. Yes. Like he did actually probably get stampeded successfully with 100 of them, bro.
00:36:57:21 - 00:37:13:12
Unknown
100 of any group of things is gonna fuck people up or fuck anybody out, right? I don't know, I don't like it. Plus, like a flying, tiny little flying things, bro. Okay. Are you a type of person that's like asking, would you rather deal with a roach on the ground or deal with a roach when it takes flight?
00:37:13:22 - 00:37:33:56
Unknown
Bro, you're going to deal with the roach when it's on the ground, correct? Why? Why would I fight this thing in the air if it's in the air? It's not my fucking problem until it becomes like, no, wait, this. The 100 is duck sized horses. Yes, it's 100 ducks. Even more terrifying. That's what I'm saying, dude. Like a hundred duck sized horses?
00:37:34:01 - 00:37:51:10
Unknown
No, man. No way. Miss me of that shit. Exactly. I fucking hate that one. That is my least favorite. Would you rather I think I there has to be the worst one out there, but that is the most common one. Like that was the result of that. I'm pissed at you. I'm blasting whoever thought of that right now.
00:37:51:10 - 00:38:18:33
Unknown
Whoever you are, I hate you. It was always used. Not always. I'm exaggerating, of course, but it was used very frequently in my college courses as an icebreaker question. And it was like at least five times at least that I can vividly remember. And it was always like the same answer. And there was always that one guy who had to be like, oh, but like, I could just kick the 100 duck sized horses like, bitch, no, you can't or you couldn't oh, hundred times.
00:38:18:37 - 00:38:41:04
Unknown
And that's assuming a one hit kill for each one, bro. You're not one shotting a duck sized horse. No, you're not one shotting either of these to be real. Unless again, to your point, you get very lucky. Yeah. Also a duck sized horse. It's going to get a ducks. It's going to get a horse scaled. Scaled to the size of a horse.
00:38:41:09 - 00:39:02:15
Unknown
Brittle ass duck neck. Because that didn't change right. Yeah. That's so snapping that that dude, I'm wringing his neck, bro. Like, if if the horse size duck. Not a horse size duck comes from me, bro. We're throwing down. No. Yeah. This is. Yeah. This is stupid. Whoever comes out of this. And sorry, I didn't even. I didn't know that this is like.
00:39:02:16 - 00:39:34:13
Unknown
Oh, God, I hate this sort of stupid fucking thing. It's obvious. Plus plus. Okay. It's a duck. Yes, yes, exactly. A stupid ass fucking bird. Like, don't. Anyway, there's a reason they say bird brain, you know? That's why. Yeah. I'm not. I'm sorry. You know what? How dare somebody. Anyway, I don't, I'm done. I hate it, I hate it so much.
00:39:34:13 - 00:39:49:31
Unknown
You're right. I'm glad I could share this with you. It's it's. I hate on it because I've never I've never sat down and I've never roasted it like I would roast that fucking horse sized duck. You know what I mean? I've never roasted this question the way I should have, and I feel a lot better. This was that was very cathartic for me.
00:39:49:31 - 00:40:09:07
Unknown
So thank you. That was highly cathartic for me. Also, I got one for you. Okay. All right. So mine is going to be so okay. I the reason I took some time to formulate this is because I think mine is going to be like a would you like a yes or no? Okay. Would you rather kind of like the last one.
00:40:09:07 - 00:40:31:01
Unknown
Like, would you do this or would you not? Okay. I like those though. So basically would you agree to or would you be cool with having the reputation? Okay, I was inspired by the movie Horrible Bosses. Jamie, Jamie Fox was in it, I think. Hold on. I need to look that up. I think because I think I've seen it.
00:40:31:01 - 00:40:48:48
Unknown
Yeah. Hold on. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I accidentally referenced that Kevin Spacey project. Whoops. But, whatever. It's okay. It's a small thing. I did see this. Yes, I do remember this movie. This was an okay movie. There were some funny bits in it, but they were both small bits that I didn't think. I mean, I 16, 69% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:40:48:48 - 00:41:16:05
Unknown
Nice. Nice. In that movie, there is this plot point that I've modified somewhat here that this is inspired by basically in it, Jamie Foxx, Jamie Foxx, this character says, this thing I keep wanted to say Jamie Lee Fox, which is the chimera of my nightmares. That's basically what fucking Ross Perot filibustered. Integrating schools to prevent Jamie Lee Fox.
00:41:16:10 - 00:41:49:46
Unknown
Sorry. God, I digress. Point being. Okay, so in it he is plays this character called Motherfucker Jones and that's right. Ask him, why or how he got that name, and he tells this story that lives on in my head because it's like the assumption song, right? He's like, well, they call me Motherfucker Jones because I went into my mother's room and I reached my finger into her open purse and took out her last $50.
00:41:49:51 - 00:42:12:42
Unknown
I fucked over my mother. And that's why they call me Motherfucker Jones. Okay. Yeah, I would you? Yeah. Take that nickname and have all of the like. Everybody gives you all of the clout and respect to do with having that nickname. But they think, because, like, they're afraid of you. But that is the reason. Like, you got a sorry.
00:42:12:43 - 00:42:39:24
Unknown
So I get a bad I get a badass nickname, but for a totally mundane reason that nobody really knows until they like, kind of a. Yeah. And it's very disappointing. And you're not allowed to lie about it. Like like you can't contractually like it just doesn't work that in that way. I think. So like, you know, you know, it's like, you know, you get like a, a couch type J.D. Vance thing appended to you.
00:42:39:28 - 00:42:59:04
Unknown
You know, it's like the actual, like, thing is that should have happened, but somehow you got a nickname that was badass that shouldn't have them. Or would you rather have a terrible nickname for something that you did that was super cool? Can you give me a like, I feel like I need like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand the concept, but I would love like a specific.
00:42:59:09 - 00:43:20:54
Unknown
No, no, I got you. Okay. Okay. So for example, the bad nickname Peach Fuzz Peter. But I got it because you got it because you fought to liberate an English colony from the English, and you, like, held out against a bunch of English people all by yourself. In other words, you took out all that peach fuzz. And your name is Peter.
00:43:20:56 - 00:43:24:34
Unknown
The situation.
00:43:24:39 - 00:43:53:49
Unknown
Yeah. Seem kind of fucking hard, isn't it? Yeah. Because in theory, like, if we go back to the very first, would you rather question today? And it's like, would you rather be remembered for your accomplishments after you die or live a comfortable life and be forgotten? If it means I have to live my life with a terrible nickname that I do get to explain honestly, then maybe that contributes to me being remembered better instead of the other one in the same scenario.
00:43:54:03 - 00:44:15:12
Unknown
Kind of. But the name you have is the Brit breaker. But if anybody asks you why you're called the Brit breaker, it's because actually, like you, I don't know, lost a fight really badly for or know got scammed out of all of your life savings in a very obvious plot by a Brit, by a British person. And so you're broke for British people.
00:44:15:23 - 00:44:34:42
Unknown
But somebody called you the Brit breaker and they accidentally stuck as a cool nickname. But the story is actually really sad. I don't know why I committed so hard to the British bit, but whatever. Here we are. Sorry Jerry, I was, I will say, also give back the Kohinoor.
00:44:34:46 - 00:45:02:34
Unknown
I, I'm going to work with the concepts. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the nickname itself doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah. It's just like the for example, I love the chaotic nature of, having a badass nickname that it's just it comes from something so stupid and mundane too, that I do really love that. I don't want to be like small Dick Sam for something that was actually like a, like a big dick moment, you know what I mean?
00:45:02:47 - 00:45:26:49
Unknown
Small dick, Sam. But you ended a fucking, like, siege by, like, you know what I mean? Like, I think the idea of doing something so big and getting, such a shitty nickname is that that's probably what ends up in the history books. Yeah, that's true. Y'all remember small dick Sami and, like, you know, or like, y'all remember star small dick Sammy, the ender of the war, which you would want.
00:45:26:54 - 00:45:48:57
Unknown
You would want to be remembered for the subtitle. They're not necessarily the main title, but here we are, as opposed to being like Stormbreaker, the first response worker who decided to take a break during Hurricane the Storm. Yeah, yeah. Why do they call him Stormbreaker? Oh, you got to ask him. Because he. Because he took a vacation when he knew a hurricane was coming.
00:45:48:57 - 00:45:55:25
Unknown
And several people died due to a first responder shortage.
00:45:55:30 - 00:46:31:33
Unknown
And, yeah, I think I would rather go with the shitty nickname, but I did something important then I would with the great nickname, but it was meaningless. Like the the reason I got it was meaningless. I think I like the idea of having meaning behind why I would have a nickname. Yeah, I think so too. Although I do kind of love the idea of having a really great nickname and then hopefully like the nickname and like whatever, like in your point, like where it gets known in history books or whatever, people are alive that knew me when I'm gone and the name is out and they're like, it's it's a badass nickname, but I'm
00:46:31:33 - 00:46:52:33
Unknown
completely getting this. Remember to the people are alive are like, hey, wait, he didn't do that, or that's you. Why? His name that I want people to be around to feel that sense of righteous indignation. Yeah, I agree with that. If that's the case, then yeah, I, I love that idea, a lot. So I'm gonna to hope for that one and take that one.
00:46:52:33 - 00:47:19:28
Unknown
Yeah. Just agreed that we're good. So I'm thinking with the age of podcasting being for some reason, the 2020s and not, you know, the late 90s, early aughts when it was like kind of invented because they're like radio. That's what my parents did. That being said, would you rather live in a world where nobody lives or nobody speaks without thinking?
00:47:19:28 - 00:47:44:54
Unknown
First? Oh, this is a good one. Yeah. Do you make this one up? Yeah, I wrote it down. I don't know if I got the language right now that I read it out loud, but, I hope the meaning comes. I kind of like it how it is. Okay. But. Yeah. So. Yeah. So to reiterate than to make sure I understand this correctly, it's nobody is allowed to lie or nobody can speak without having a premeditated component to that thought.
00:47:44:54 - 00:48:05:24
Unknown
Correct. Oh yeah. I had a hard time when this popped into my head. I want to say like a couple days ago. And I don't remember why. I think maybe I can't say anything untrue. I mean, I, I'm not much for lying. I'm not great. I'm not a great liar. I never have been. I never will be.
00:48:05:36 - 00:48:33:06
Unknown
Oh, I am, that's that's horrifying. Yeah, I don't know. I like the idea that everybody is honest, but I also like the idea of people finding a way to choose to be honest first and in their way, rather than like, yeah, I killed them. I fucking, yeah, I fucking stabbed the guy. I like that, but I would prize the ability to be able to lie, to spare people's feelings.
00:48:33:10 - 00:48:51:45
Unknown
Yeah. And I think that comes with the speak without thinking, because I feel like a world where nobody lies to me. In my mind when I formulated this, nobody lies is like, you just don't have time to think. You are just caught. It's just constant. It's just like a wave of consciousness that comes through. And it's not always a bad thing, right?
00:48:51:45 - 00:49:11:27
Unknown
Like it's not. I mean, honesty should not ever really be a bad thing, but, you know, sometimes know too, you know, I don't think it should be a bad thing, but I don't always think it's only a good thing either. No, this is like a thing we should talk about sometime, because I. People think they want the truth, but they but can't handle.
00:49:11:29 - 00:49:32:06
Unknown
Don't always. Well, no it's not. They can't handle it. I think that it's that they think that's what they want, but I think sometimes it is. But like, anyway, this is a thing for a separate time. But I think I would choose that. Everybody has to think before they speak. I agree, I actually just think the entire world would benefit by thinking before they say anything.
00:49:32:06 - 00:49:48:55
Unknown
And I think, I think social media would be more tolerable as well. I agree, I agree that what I'm saying, because there are some things in which people can't help but think or feel okay when they hear something, and sometimes you don't want to tell them that truth then because it's just going to hurt. And this is one of those things that ignore the disclaimer if you like.
00:49:48:55 - 00:50:10:54
Unknown
I don't mean to hurt your feelings or I don't mean to, and it's not their fault. Some things you can't disclaim away from being harsh. Yeah. And but I mean, sometimes, I appreciate bluntness, though. I don't like beating around the bush. I like, I don't know if that's the ADHD or just how I was raised. Like, I just prefer people get straight to the point and are honest with me from the jump.
00:50:10:58 - 00:50:33:09
Unknown
I mean, personally, I completely agree. And in fact, like in my professional job, when I especially when I have like learner's or anything in which I am doing, you know, where there's a power dynamic or whatever else. I personally I'm the same way. Like I always tell everybody, you will never have to guess what I'm thinking. I will be unreserved and unabashedly in my positive feedback.
00:50:33:09 - 00:50:50:56
Unknown
But equally, if I think thing is not going well, something is not going well. I will say, and you know, sometimes that's going to be maybe I'll come across harsh, but now that I'm holding myself to the same standard, and I hope and expect that you'll do the same for me, it's it boils down to me having control issues.
00:50:50:56 - 00:51:14:15
Unknown
I want to be able to. I don't like the idea of being out of control of like what comes out of my mouth. Yeah, I I'm inclined to agree, but I've always been somebody who tries, you know, tries his best to think before I speak, but I always end up either overthinking it and not speaking or speaking in a way that doesn't actually get my message across.
00:51:14:15 - 00:51:40:58
Unknown
In a world where we're all thinking, before we speak, I feel like it would be a lot more neurodivergent friendly, for sure. Yeah, I mean, I would yeah, like, we would protect ourselves from ourselves better. Oh, God. Yeah. I mean, I'd be able to actually formulate the sentence instead of having to literally formulate the sentence in like five seconds and then get my point out there in, like, a meeting or like in a, in a podcast, for example.
00:51:40:58 - 00:52:04:10
Unknown
Yeah. And who's going to protect me from me? You know, if I, if I can't think for I speak or be mandated to I guess in this case. But I also like the idea and I think this works in reverse, too. But I like the idea that I subscribe to the idea that speaking after thinking about it would hopefully lead to a lot more honest discussion and a lot more credit.
00:52:04:10 - 00:52:21:27
Unknown
So that's fair thing, right? But I think the reverse is also help for that. Like you're you you could think about how to formulate a lie better, how to manipulate somebody better, how to, you know, you could easily do the reverse, but I feel like this would be an improvement on the world we currently live in. I would agree.
00:52:21:32 - 00:52:44:29
Unknown
Overall, no, I agree, I think. Yeah, overall improvement for sure. To me, the lie thing, I guess it kind of strikes me as it's almost like the drugs argument, like do I am I pro or anti legalizing or not legalizing drugs kind of deal. It's one of these things where like lies are kind of like drugs in which I don't think they're good or bad inherently always.
00:52:44:29 - 00:53:09:04
Unknown
I think they just are. And I think it's harder to say that about something like a lie, because it has such a strong content, like inherently something that is not good or without the other person's consent likely is happening. But I don't always think it has a bad outcome or a bad intent, and I think that it would foster more honest discussion in that way.
00:53:09:09 - 00:53:33:59
Unknown
I hopefully it would foster more honest discussion in that way, because nobody obviously, there's always going to be an element of people that are going to do the wrong thing with it. Right? But you can't cater to that. Oh for sure. I, I just think like a world where nobody lies as I, as I think about this is a world where people's biases can still like come through and like they could tell you what they actually believe and mean it.
00:53:33:59 - 00:53:51:30
Unknown
And you know that when they say something scathing that they're not saying it because it's a lie, but they say it because they believe it. They're not saying it to make them feel themselves, feel better. Like if this is like a, like a world where this is like built in to the culture, like I feel like nobody lying might end up pre-amp filter.
00:53:51:43 - 00:54:14:56
Unknown
Yeah, I think you're right. And I think it might be more of a, I think it might lead to more chaos than anything. I that was a good one. But no, I agree, I, I'm weighing on the side of lies today. I'm, I'm, I'm supporting I'm supporting the idea of not truth. Today I deserves an advocate and I am its advocates.
00:54:14:56 - 00:54:38:29
Unknown
I think I think you're supporting the idea that being able to build trust and reliability is actually, a human experience that shouldn't be facilitated by a cultural expectation of nobody lying is how I how I take that. I don't I don't think you are all about lies. I don't think you're like out there with a fucking picket signs saying, everybody lie.
00:54:38:31 - 00:55:08:46
Unknown
Start lying right now. But I'm like starving people outside. Are you lying? You fucking telling the truth? Right. If I could microchip everyone like a episode of South Park where he, like, install shitter, where you can just hear people's thoughts directly? Yes, I would do that to everybody. And I'd be like, quit. Told the truth. And that's probably because that's how you would have to enforce something like, nobody lying in a world like that, you would have to be able to monitor that.
00:55:08:51 - 00:55:30:14
Unknown
You'd have to find a way to like physiologically monitor that in on, on eight, 8 billion individuals. Bro. That's a black mirror as shit. That is some black mirror ass shit. Well, I think that's I think that's it for now. For for or would you rather you got anything to say though? I guess I'm still thirsting for I-beams and I want everybody to think about that.
00:55:30:14 - 00:55:52:18
Unknown
Still, I am. I am also on the side of I-beams, these days. I'm glad, I convinced. I'm glad everybody came around. Got anything else read? No, just got really, really, really distracted. Yeah. Would you say, I guess would you rather. It was pretty distracting. It was. And it was, it was, it was quite the dive. Pleasure to dive with you all.
00:55:52:22 - 00:56:13:59
Unknown
And good night.